Dostinex
By
Anthony Roberts
Dostinex
was originally introduced to the bodybuilding community by the
anti-aging crowd. About a decade ago, the only place you could really
find this stuff being sold was on mail order lists for various
life-extension clinics. Although they are, frankly, a very weird bunch
of people, the life-extensionistas were among the first to find and
make available a lot of the stuff that eventually found its way into
athletic circles, like Dostinex and other such nootropics (drugs that
increase mental activity).
Dostinex
is one of those drugs. I first saw it on an anti-aging
clinic’s price list about a decade ago, and more recently, I
saw it being discussed by various people who are “in the
know” on the internet. The former fact made it slightly
interesting to me, while the latter had exactly the opposite effect.
Actually, I first mentioned it in an ancillary article I wrote several
years ago, but recently I decided to do some more research on it, and I
have to admit, it’s a very interesting drug. Before I explain
what it does, I think a discussion of some important hormones and
enzymes are in order.
Dostinex
is usually employed by bodybuilders to combat prolactin
and effects related to prolactin…that’s so before
we go any further, lets , it’s very important to understand
exactly what that hormone is. Prolactin is a single-chain protein, very
closely related to growth hormone. It is secreted by what’s
known as lactotrophs in the anterior part of your
pituitary gland. In addition, Prolactin is also synthesized and
secreted by many other cells in the body, like immune cells, in the
brain, and in women is even secreted by the decidua,
in the uterus of pregnant women.
If
you’ve done any reading at all on prolactin, you have
probably come across the fact that its major effects are felt by the
mammary gland, and that stimulating mammary gland development and milk
production are its primary role. While this is true, many issues have
prolactin receptors, and although the anterior pituitary is the major
source of prolactin, it is actually synthesized and secreted in several
other tissues. Too much prolactin expression can even be responsible
for certain types of pituitary tumors. But the most prevalent side
effect we see from it in bodybuilders is development of excess mammary
tissue and milk production. Unfortunately, mammary gland development
and milk production are among its major effects. Great if you are a
cow, but not so great if you are a bodybuilder. Yeah, that’s
right- too much prolactin can cause galactorrhea (excessive
or spontaneous secretion of milk). The other prevalent side effect is
sexual dysfunction. I suspect that the average male bodybuilder
doesn’t want anything to do with any of that.
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Excessive secretion of prolactin – which is known as hyperprolactinemia
- is a relative common disorder in humans. This condition has numerous
causes, including prolactin-secreting tumors and therapy with certain
drugs, like anabolic steroids.
Common
symptoms of hyperprolactinemia in women can include menstrual
irregularities, and galactorrhea (which was covered in the preceding
paragraph). Sadly, men who have hyperprolactinemia tend to have most of
the same symptoms; enlarged mammary glands, milk production, and also
have some other side effects to contend with, such as hypogonadism,
decreased libido (sex drive), decreased sperm production and impotence,
but at least they very rarely produce milk, although it’s
possible...and disgusting.
Of
course, we can put a stop to possible prolactin related side effects,
if we can get some dopamine secretion going on. You see, dopamine is a
major prolactin-inhibiting chemical and sends a message to your body to
decrease its rate of prolactin secretion. Basically, it’s
secreted into your blood, binds to receptors on lactotrophs (remember
them?), and then inhibits the synthesis and secretion of prolactin.
That’s important, because it works in two ways…it prevents both
the synthesis and the production of prolactin.
This
is where Dostinex comes in…

Liquid Dostinex
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Dostinex
(Cabergoline) is a dopamine agonist. Dopamine is a chemical, found in
the brain, which transmits nerve impulses and is involved in the
formation of epinephrine. More likely than not, this is why the
Life-Extentionistas are very big on this drug. Dopamine is also released by the hypothalamus, and
hormone can inhibit the release of prolactin from the anterior lobe of
the pituitary, so given all the bad things that we have already seen to
be a result of excess. If you use anabolic steroids, Dostinex will help
you reduce the chance of any of these prolactin related side-effects.
It has actually been shown in numerous studies to have a very high
success rate in lowering prolactin and prolactin related conditions and
side-effects (1)
(2).In fact, for management of hyperprolactinemia and
it’s symptoms (got milk?), Dostinex is the preferred
treatment in terms of effectiveness as well as having very few
undesirable side effects (3).
It does this very well for both men and women, it
should be noted…almost identically actually (4)
Since it lowers prolactin very efficiently,
Dostinex will even get rid sexual dysfunction caused by excess
prolactin (5)
(which is (anecdotally at least) highly correlative
with the use of certain steroids like the Nandrolones and Trenbolones
(Deca and Tren). This is great news for everyone who loves Tren and
Deca, because those two steroids are really great additions to almost
any cycle- but many people avoid using them because of the possibility
of them causing impotence (often called “deca
dick”).
Using Dostinex will allow you to include steroids
like Tren and Deca in any cycle- and even combine them in the same
cycle- without worrying about sexual dysfunction. In
fact…even if you aren’t experiencing any sort of
sexual dysfunction, Dostinex will shorten the time you need to recover
and gain an erection between orgasms, and can
significantly enhance all parameters of sexual drive and function (6).
In
other words, if you’re not worried about sexual issues and
you take Dostinex anyway…it’ll still help you out
in bed. And from what I have heard, it’s well worth the money
for that effect.
Of course you can actually use Dostinex safely for
an extended amount of time (many studies go on for months if not years,
and its efficacy and safety are well documented), but women need to be
more careful than men, and certainly need to discontinue using it if
they’re pregnant or trying to conceive. SO Dostinex can help
you, the average steroid user, by combating gyno-like effects, as well
as galactorrhea,
and sexual dysfunction. Sounds great, right? Of course it
is…but since Dostinex is a dopamine agonist, which means
it’s good for a whole lot more.
You
see Dopamine is what’s called a monoamine, which is naturally
produced in the body by modifying an amino acid.

Dopamine
And
it’s this structure which makes it very interesting to us.
Dostinex as you already know is what’s known as a dopamine
“agonist”- or substance that triggers a response in
a specific body tissue or group of cells by binding to specific
receptor on or inside the cells, as if it were actually the bodily
substance that usually binds to that receptor. Probably the one that
most people are familiar with, with regards to agonists is ephedrine,
which is an andrenergic agonist. This is why ephedrine makes you feel
“wired”…it “feels”
like adrenaline to your body. Cabergoline is a dopamine
agonist…which makes it “feel” like
dopamine to your body.

Dostinex
So
what does that mean? Well, in the brain, dopamine helps control the flow of
information from other areas of the brain. So a dopamine agonist will
help you process information more quickly, and possibly improve your
memory also. Some athletes use Dostinex because it helps them learn new
motor skills more quickly and thus they can learn new techniques or
plays at a faster rate than their competition; needless to say this
gives the athletes using Dostinex a huge advantage over their
competition. This ability to work on your bodies information pathways
and nervous system are doubtless why it’s been successfully
been used to fight Parkinsons disease (7)(8).
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But
does this actually work in real athletes? Well, actually,
that’s why I started reading about Dostinex. See, I have the
fortune of being able to basically call some of the most famous
strength coaches in the world whenever I want. And, recently the last
time I spoke to one about training and anabolic steroids, I asked him
about different training programs for a person on steroids- and his
answer said that it depends on whether that person was taking a
nootropics or not. And as you may remember, Dostinex is a nootropic. It
was that conversation that made me really take a closer look at
Dostinex. And of course, that strength coach told me that his athletes
have used nootropics with great success. The down side of knowing
internationally renowned strength coaches is that their sense of humor
is usually a little off, and if you have the fortune of being able to
pick their brains on training, you also invariably have the misfortune
of ending up on their group e-mail list which gets you a whole host of
bizarre forwarded e-mails…
In fact, when you don’t have enough
dopamine, you may even have difficulty concentrating…low
dopamine levels have also been cited as a possible underlying cause for
Attention deficit disorder (ADD) and Attention deficit/ Hyperactivity
disorder (ADHD). In fact, many several medications used to treat ADD
and ADHD will also serve to stimulate dopaminergic, and this could be
one of their possible mechanisms of action.
Dopamine is also what’s called a
“pleasure chemical”…it’s
usually released by your body when you experience a rewarding
experience such as eating your favorite food, having sex, winning the
lottery….whatever. Interestingly, since this
“happy” effect is felt when you are satiated from
food, it’s highly possible that Dopamine agonists will cause
you to feel “full” more often and decrease desire
for food without the discomfort that dieting usually brings. Dopamine
is released when you eat a nice big meal…so…a
dopamine agonist like Dostinex may make you not want to eat as much,
and help you feel full even if you don’t eat enough.
Dostinex, therefore, may be of great interest to precontest
bodybuilders and other dieters, who want to avoid some of the
discomfort and anxiety that calorie restriction can bring.
Certain recreational drugs also have a lot to do
with their effects on dopamine. Cocaine is what is known as a dopamine
transporter blocker; what this means is that it competitively inhibits
dopamine uptake to increase the amount of time released dopamine is
active in your body. This makes you feel good, while the dopamine is
floating around your body. Methamphetamine is another illicit
(illegal) recreational drug that acts on dopamine as well. It actually
serves to competitively inhibit dopamine uptake as well as increasing
dopamine flow through a dopamine transporter pathway. That’s
how those drugs make you “feel good.” Dostinex is,
of course, neither physically nor mentally addictive, but since it is a
dopamine agonist, its users often experience an enhanced positive sense
of well being. So besides helping with all of the things discussed
earlier, Cabergoline will also just make you feel damn good.
So now that I told you about it, I’ll
tell you how much Dostinex do you need to start experiencing these
effects…or basically, how I’m going to use it, now
that I did all this research on it!
From the reading I’ve done, you only
need about half a milligram (1/2mg) a week to experience all of the
anti-prolactin, prosexual, antidepressant, and cognitive effects of
Dostinex, but that’s on the very low end of the effectiveness
scale. This stuff has an extremely long active life in the body, so
once a week dosing is fine…but if it were me, and I were
taking this stuff, I’d probably be using about .25mgs-.5mgs
twice a week.
It should be taken before bed-time, because it may
actually help you sleep a bit better, (9),
Can be taken with or without food and not alter
the pharmacokinetics (how it functions in your body) (10),
and
(incidentally) according to the literature is a much more efficient
drug than Bromocriptine (11).
I
think once people find out about this drug, it’s going to
find it’s way into quite a few bodybuilders’ cycles
alongside Tren, Deca, or both…and athletes are going to take
advantage of it’s uses for skill acquisition and motor
co-ordination help…and all the other stuff…the
prosexual properties and general “feel good”
properties of Dostinex make it a great choice for anyone interested in
…err…feeling good and having better
sex…which I suspect is basically everyone, not just
bodybuilders and athletes. I guess I should have paid more attention to
this stuff when it started appearing on those Life-Extension club
pricelists a decade ago…but at least I figured it out
now….even if I happen to be a bit late on this one.
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